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Post subject: Pictures or drawings
 Posted: Jul 27, 2005 - 03:05 PM
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Booshway
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I have been wondering what a rendezvous would have looked like back then. Would there have been more wall tents, lean-tos, any tipis?
Are there any acturate pictures or drawings of rendezvous out there? |
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Post subject: RE: Pictures or drawings
Posted: Jul 27, 2005 - 03:45 PM
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Check the American Mountain Man site. Mainly Indians had tipi's, unless a man was married to an Indian woman, then, it would have been made of hides. There are a few trade lists on the AMM that has "Indian lodges" listed on them. Blankets, bark and hides were used, but a simple piece of hemp canvas seemed to be very common, along with the wedge tent.
http://roxen.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/images.html
http://roxen.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/mmarch.html
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Post subject: RE: Pictures or drawings
Posted: Jul 27, 2005 - 03:54 PM
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| Thanks for the links to the pictures. It looks like I need to do some reading and research on my question. |
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Post subject: Dwellings.
Posted: Jul 29, 2005 - 12:30 AM
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These descriptions are similar to others mentioned.
At length, at half-past two o'clock, we came to a halt, and gathering
together our forces, encamped in an open and lofty grove, with a
prairie on one side and a stream on the other. The forest immediately
rang with the sound of the axe, and the crash of falling trees. Huge
fires were soon blazing; blankets were stretched before them, by way
of tents; booths were hastily reared of bark and skins; every fire
had its group drawn close round it, drying and warming themselves, or
preparing a comforting meal.
In a beautiful open forest, traversed by a running stream, were
booths of bark and branches, and tents of blankets, temporary
shelters from the recent rain, for the rangers commonly bivouac in
the open air. There were groups of rangers in every kind of uncouth
garb. Some were cooking at large fires made at the feet of trees;
some were stretching and dressing deer skins; some were shooting at a
mark, and some lying about on the grass.
From "A Tour on the Prairies" by Washington Irving, 1835.
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Post subject: picture of a 1840 camp
Posted: Aug 03, 2005 - 02:20 PM
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Post subject: Picture
Posted: Aug 03, 2005 - 03:53 PM
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Booshway
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Hope you don't mind beaudro, I was working out attachment issues in the forum so I used your picture to test it with.
Without knowing each other was doing it both Pare_Bowlegs and beaudro sent references to the same photo, so they both get credit.
With the geeky stuff out of the way, is that a one pole or a tipi. Is it square or round? |
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 - 04:15 PM
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Mike Moore, a member of the AMM, says one of them would be a single pole or a pyramid. The top of the one looks more pointed, and might suggest a one pole. Sure is interesting though, ain't it?
Yeah, I couldn't get it to post, so I asked Allen/Beaudro to do it. I found that on the Historical Trekker's message board, and was posted by Mike Moore. So, I can't really take any credit for it.
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 - 04:17 PM
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| I fixed the issue of attachments, I just need to check the permissions now. |
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 - 04:19 PM
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| Off the subject, Matt...did you ever find the plans for the wagon? Looking at the picture reminded me of it. |
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Posted: Sep 21, 2005 - 05:25 PM
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Matt, what time period and area are you thinking of. If its late 1700's to mid 1800's (west of the Mississippi) you would find tepee's baker tents, lean-tos, and wigwams. If its the early 1600's to late 1700's ( north and east of the Mississippi) you would find wigwams, lean-tos, diamonds, wall tents, and long houses. As for pictures try Grand Portage National Monument at http://www.nps.gov/grpo/home1.htm . They are really good on info of the voyaguer time period.
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Posted: Oct 13, 2005 - 10:55 AM
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I haven't seen any descriptions or drawings of the baker tent being used in the late 1700's to mid 1800's. But, I don't have all the books either. This style of tent seems to be hard to document during the Fur Trade. I would like to find some though.
Tentsmiths has an excerpt from Henry David Thoreau in 1853.
First, tent catalogs and woodsmanship books of the early 20th century contain fine descriptions and drawings. Second, Mr. Henry David Thoreau describes what can only be a Baker in a journal entry he made in 1853. He does not lead one to believe that it is a new style, just a warmer tent than he was using at the time which happened to be a wedge. He explains the name came from it's similarity in appearance to a "Yankee Baker" or, as we call it today, a reflector oven!
" Bakers" are best suited for those folks looking for a traditional NORTHEAST late 19th Century canoeing tent or just someplace that they can sit in and be dry while they admire their fire. |
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